training help??...throwing shoulder out...

[horsesxox23]

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[Ruby Rider]

hmmm that is weird... but my horse dose that every once in a while but i have a question have u thought him how to yeild his hind quarter? ( hind quarter turn?) because that would help alot

[silverleprichuan]

it sounds like you have a multitude of problems going on here from resistance to leg, rubber necked, etc. I think a trainer who can evaluate your horse in person will be able to help you the most.

[DixieGirl]

My friends horse does that. what I worked on with her was doing really really small circles. It will kinda turn into a 360. You just have to be consistante and patient! Good Luck! ;)

[silverleprichuan]

My friends horse does that. what I worked on with her was doing really really small circles. It will kinda turn into a 360. You just have to be consistante and patient! Good Luck! ;)


if he's poping his shoulder out and ignoring inside aids, then small circles will teach him to throw his weight to the inside and he will become more inconsistant and unbalanced through the turns. if he's unbalanced then do bigger circles and more gradual changes of bend

[alliekk]

I agree with bigger circles and straight lines. Also, if he's been in an accident, maybe its a chiropractic issue? Check it out.

My suggestion is to turn him with leg cues, not reins. You shouldn't need to guide your horse by pulling on the reins, use your legs and help to teach himself good posture. Work on your walk-trot skills and bending as well as haunch turns and forehand turns, just to make sure he is listening to your legs and knows what you are asking. Side-passing and leg yeilding are also great. Work on all of these before you ask for the canter. Once you do ask for it, have him do the transition on a straight line. Keep your weight centered in your saddle, keep a firm hand on the outside rein, and ask him to move over with your outside heel. Consistency pays off. hope this helps!

[horsesxox23]

well right now im not trying to do any cantering work because of his leg, it was just a deep surface wound but u never know, so i want to be careful, and ive tried to use my legs, if i put my outside leg on him up by his girth it helps a little, but not much, and if i put my outside leg on him behind the girth to keep his but from goin out then he throws his shoulder out, and im sure he knows that he is doin it, but i think it has become a habitual way of moving for him, i think he might just need consistency, im still workin on it tho, suggestions are def. still welcome...haha

[cursivenight]

I'd work on moving the horse off your leg, and getting him to be responsive to your leg. You can do a variety of different forms of leg yields.

Also make sure to be flexible through your hand, and not to pull. Try half halting with the outside rein if he is stiff and turning refusing to bend.

[alliekk]

If you are worried about not harming his leg then in the mean time you can work on his ground skills. that's where a horses respect for aids begins. work on moving him off your thumb on his barrel where your heel will be when you ride him. practice cross-overs. also, like I said before, softening him to side-passing, haunch/forehand turns, and two-tracking. just be patient and firm, he'll get the hint

[horsesxox23]

thx for all the suggestions, but i just got back from the barn and his wound is all infected so we had to hose it out, and open it up to let the infection out....grr...he waaas healing so nicely, but it will eventually be better...thx again