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Barrelbabe_23
12-06-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok. So I decide to train my aunts horse Tigger!! He is 7yrs old but is not ridable for kids!! So I really need tips. Thanks

Barrelbabe_23
12-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Anybody????????

crazy4horses
12-06-2007, 04:02 PM
I have one or two.. try lungeing him undersaddle for like 45 mins to an 1 hour at a basic walk/trot and try joining up with him. Do you know how to do that? You could also try and pratice to maybe stand on a stool or a step-up and put weight on his back with your arm strength to kinda get hime used to having weight on his back... does that make sense?

horse_lover
12-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Get a trainer! to help you!!!

BigStarLover
12-06-2007, 04:56 PM
wow. and this is the one your terrifed of lol. idk, but how did you do that santa hat i love it !

silverleprichuan
12-06-2007, 05:03 PM
How much training experience do you have?

Can this mare lead, tie, load, clip, ground tie, etc? Has she been backed under saddle?

snapmyapp
12-06-2007, 05:28 PM
you should REALLY consider hooking up w. a proffesional, and if you can afford putting him in training, try working out some deals with them, or take weekly lessons. that way you wont have any long term problems.

Barrelbabe_23
12-07-2007, 04:57 AM
crazy4horses:I now about the lunging and all that and hes been ridin alot he just likes to buck and stuff but yes it make sence and thank you very much!!!!


horse lover:its not my horse and my aunt will not get a trainer we think thats why he bites and stuff becuase he was abused by the trainer.He bit me once.Hes not bitting now but.I have no clue why my aunt got this horse for little kids...dont ask.


Casssiiie!!:I not treffide of him im just not nervouse but i watch out for him(not scared) I dont know the word.

sliverleprichuaun: not alot but i am the only one in the family who knows how to ride really well.I have uncles that are going to help me handle him but dont know how to ride.but besieds my aunt(the other onw who thinks she knows everything) there is no way i am working with her(she cant ride either)lol and yes he can do all that stuff.

snapmyapp: my aunt wont gett any trainer or anything she wants me to do it??(i have no clue why but i want to do it) and I take lessons every week.(jumping)

Barrelbabe_23
12-07-2007, 04:58 AM
the only reason my aunt wants me to train Tigger is so he can be ridinable for kids!!

BigStarLover
12-07-2007, 05:31 AM
how did you do that santa hat i looove it !

Barrelbabe_23
12-07-2007, 05:35 AM
my uncle did it on a paint thing on the computer..lol

silverleprichuan
12-07-2007, 05:12 PM
crazy4horses:I now about the lunging and all that and hes been ridin alot he just likes to buck and stuff but yes it make sence and thank you very much!!!!


horse lover:its not my horse and my aunt will not get a trainer we think thats why he bites and stuff becuase he was abused by the trainer.He bit me once.Hes not bitting now but.I have no clue why my aunt got this horse for little kids...dont ask.


Casssiiie!!:I not treffide of him im just not nervouse but i watch out for him(not scared) I dont know the word.

sliverleprichuaun: not alot but i am the only one in the family who knows how to ride really well.I have uncles that are going to help me handle him but dont know how to ride.but besieds my aunt(the other onw who thinks she knows everything) there is no way i am working with her(she cant ride either)lol and yes he can do all that stuff.

snapmyapp: my aunt wont gett any trainer or anything she wants me to do it??(i have no clue why but i want to do it) and I take lessons every week.(jumping)



If you determined to do this I was recommend a few things:

a) get a helmet and wear it EVERY time you're around this horse, even ground work. If he's not respectful and rears up because you apply pressure, things can get nasty quickly.

b) tell your aunt that you'll give things a shot but you reserve the right to change your mind at any time if you feel that things are no longer under control or you are worried about your safety. If she loves you (which I'm sure she does) your health and safety will come first.

c) read anything you can get your hands on.
Just some links I found in under 3 min, take some time to google, there's so much out there.
http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Horse-Under-Saddle
http://www.equusite.com/articles/ground/groundLungingDifficulties.shtml
http://www.equinesite.com/articles/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=878
http://www.infohorse.com/clintonanderson.asp
http://www.infohorse.com/ShowArticle.asp?id=447&FormsButton1=Show+the+Article

Barrelbabe_23
12-07-2007, 06:47 PM
o k t h a n k s

TVF Maggie
12-07-2007, 08:17 PM
how old r u?

Barrelbabe_23
12-09-2007, 07:36 AM
12..just wondering but what does that have to do with training a horse?

BigStarLover
12-10-2007, 01:38 PM
lol !!!!! Well it means like what your age Cause if your yound and stuufff... you know? but your old enough

Barrelbabe_23
12-12-2007, 05:00 AM
yea i know that..lol my friend is 9yrs old and barrel races and jumps higher than i do

reneigh
12-12-2007, 05:58 AM
Well if he's green and you're green that's not going to end well at all. You can't just get a green 7 year old horse and think "he's old enough to know better, this should be easy". Doesn't work that way. Get a trainer before somebody gets hurt! ESPECIALLY the kids.

BigStarLover
12-12-2007, 05:59 AM
green ? ? ? ??

reneigh
12-12-2007, 06:01 AM
green ? ? ? ??

.... do you have any idea what green means?

BigStarLover
12-12-2007, 06:03 AM
no,,,lol doesnt it mean difficult & such?

reneigh
12-12-2007, 06:03 AM
12..just wondering but what does that have to do with training a horse?

Maybe because it's a thousand pound animal that can easily overtake you at any chance it has? Just a thought? I'm 17 and can barely handle any horse over 16hh because I'm so small.

reneigh
12-12-2007, 06:04 AM
no,,,lol doesnt it mean difficult & such?

Green means inexperienced. It's probably the most common horse term

PrissyBritches
12-12-2007, 07:00 AM
crazy4horses:I now about the lunging and all that and hes been ridin alot he just likes to buck and stuff but yes it make sence and thank you very much!!!!


horse lover:its not my horse and my aunt will not get a trainer we think thats why he bites and stuff becuase he was abused by the trainer.He bit me once.Hes not bitting now but.I have no clue why my aunt got this horse for little kids...dont ask.


Casssiiie!!:I not treffide of him im just not nervouse but i watch out for him(not scared) I dont know the word.

sliverleprichuaun: not alot but i am the only one in the family who knows how to ride really well.I have uncles that are going to help me handle him but dont know how to ride.but besieds my aunt(the other onw who thinks she knows everything) there is no way i am working with her(she cant ride either)lol and yes he can do all that stuff.

snapmyapp: my aunt wont gett any trainer or anything she wants me to do it??(i have no clue why but i want to do it) and I take lessons every week.(jumping)


okay, you said that he bucks. my newly trained 3 year old mare does this at the canter. all you have to do is sit your wait back so the horse can not buck. and if the horse does buck dont make a big deal out of i, just correct very quickly and move on with the lesson. :)

Barrelbabe_23
12-13-2007, 05:17 AM
THanks everyone. I am not green...

reneigh
12-13-2007, 10:19 AM
THanks everyone. I am not green...

you're 12 years old. and i said the horse is green, if you read what i wrote.

Barrelbabe_23
12-13-2007, 02:13 PM
oh i thought you were saying im green im srry!!!!

silverleprichuan
12-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Maybe because it's a thousand pound animal that can easily overtake you at any chance it has? Just a thought? I'm 17 and can barely handle any horse over 16hh because I'm so small.


You cannot judge the skill level of an individual based on their age. Growing up I knew a 12 year old who owned, trained, and showed her 17h warmblood Stallion in the mini-prixs. She was certainly an exception to the rule but horses knew better then try and walk all over her.


I'm not sure why you mention size, because in most cases it is completely irrelevant. I'm only 5'1 and I've met horses that I couldn't handle because they were dangerous but not because I was too short.
I school 3 horses well over 16 hands and I've never found my size to be to my disadvantage on the ground.

reneigh
12-13-2007, 06:56 PM
You cannot judge the skill level of an individual based on their age. Growing up I knew a 12 year old who owned, trained, and showed her 17h warmblood Stallion in the mini-prixs. She was certainly an exception to the rule but horses knew better then try and walk all over her.


I'm not sure why you mention size, because in most cases it is completely irrelevant. I'm only 5'1 and I've met horses that I couldn't handle because they were dangerous but not because I was too short.
I school 3 horses well over 16 hands and I've never found my size to be to my disadvantage on the ground.

Yes and that 12 year old probably had the best trainers and best horses due to money, am I right? (Undoubtedly, considering it's a warmblood stallion). This 12 year old obviously does not have money for a top trainer or horses or else she wouldn't be training a backyard horse. So in this case, size DOES matter, along with experience.

And I'm 5'2" and I have never met a horse over 16hh that wasn't dangerous to me in some sort of way, because of the fact that I only weigh 110lbs and they weigh well over a thousand.

silverleprichuan
12-13-2007, 09:13 PM
Yes and that 12 year old probably had the best trainers and best horses due to money, am I right? (Undoubtedly, considering it's a warmblood stallion). This 12 year old obviously does not have money for a top trainer or horses or else she wouldn't be training a backyard horse. So in this case, size DOES matter, along with experience.

And I'm 5'2" and I have never met a horse over 16hh that wasn't dangerous to me in some sort of way, because of the fact that I only weigh 110lbs and they weigh well over a thousand.


Nope, this girl bought him as a rescue for 2k and trained him using an average trainer. She read and audited clinics constantly and did her best to learn everything she possibly could about horses. She got her name out and made money by riding ponies to fund showing her stallion. She was a hard worker and became sucessful despite limited funds.


Horses are inherently dangerous, that's why we train them. You cannot out muscle a horse, even a small pony. In the end it depends on your skill level and experience, the size of the horse is not a factor.
At 5'1 and 95 lbs my 1200 lb appendix could crush me like a bug, my sisters 14.3 morgan/Qh could do the same. They both respect me because of their training.
There is no magic number where a horse become dangerous. I've seen ponies attack a grown man and draft horses cower in front of a child.

cursivenight
12-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Size CAN matter, but personally, I believe its what you do with yourself that counts. Of course if you're absolutely enormous a horse MAY take a second look at you then if you're puny, but still. If you know how to PROPERLY handle a horse, you should be fine.

HOWEVER, if you are too short (I'm talking as in really young-kid short) you can be put at a disadvantage because of being physically unable to reach something or whatever.

If you have no idea how to back a horse, I think you should READ READ READ, watch videos, go to seminars, etc.

Also since it is your first time you definately should have a trainer. Older horses are said to be HARDER to break, because they are so used to being unhandled (thats just what I've heard).

If you're family member that wants you to break the horse puts your safety below anything else I wouldn't do it.

Remember to take it slowly, and ALWAYS WEAR A HELMET.

reneigh
12-14-2007, 05:51 AM
Nope, this girl bought him as a rescue for 2k and trained him using an average trainer. She read and audited clinics constantly and did her best to learn everything she possibly could about horses. She got her name out and made money by riding ponies to fund showing her stallion. She was a hard worker and became sucessful despite limited funds.


Horses are inherently dangerous, that's why we train them. You cannot out muscle a horse, even a small pony. In the end it depends on your skill level and experience, the size of the horse is not a factor.
At 5'1 and 95 lbs my 1200 lb appendix could crush me like a bug, my sisters 14.3 morgan/Qh could do the same. They both respect me because of their training.
There is no magic number where a horse become dangerous. I've seen ponies attack a grown man and draft horses cower in front of a child.

Well that's good for her that she did that, I admire someone who could do that, but why a stallion?

Yeah I get what you're saying, but I guess it's just my personal belief that noone with a ton of experience should try to train a horse by themselves. I shouldn't have brought up the size thing, because you raise a good point. I wouldn't trust my stepdad, with all his muscles and height, to work my green 14.2hh 850lb pony, because she would run him right over. Even when my friends, who have ridden most (or all) of their lives, get on her, she is difficult for them because she's a complicated horse to figure out.

But at any rate, I really think you should look into finding a trainer, or at least someone who has worked with horses more than you, to help you out. Horses are unpredictable, and like cursivenight said, older horses can be harder to train. My girl wasn't even touched until she was 3 years old, and then she had a saddle thrown on her back and was over fences in a month, which is why she has so many problems. I've had her for a year and it's just like training a 3 year old still.

Let us know what you decide, what happens. :)

Barrelbabe_23
12-16-2007, 10:15 AM
Ok thanks guys!!