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ForeverEquine
12-25-2007, 01:02 PM
Hello,

In this thread I will discuss what kinds of photos are suitable to post here at Canter Culture. This is a guideline to help keep you from breaking any copyright laws. Some of you may be new to the world wide web so please be on guard and realize that the internet is not a place for free material. Taking whatever material you wish could result in severe consequences.

cop·y·right /ˈkɒpiˌraɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kop-ee-rahyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death. *taken from dictionary.com*

The internet is a wonderful place, full of beautifully captured equine images. You stumble upon a gorgeous, feathery friesian galloping across a sandy beach. You just love the image and you would like to display it as your profile image. Should you copy and post the image?

Answer: No! Under no circumstances should you copy an image that wasn't specifically taken by you personally unless you have permission from the original photographer/artist. To do so is copyright infringement and could be rectified with severe court suits and fines.

If you really, REALLY desire to post the photo, then try to contact the owners of the image to seek permission to use their material.

You fall in love with a horse that is up for sale. It is your dream horse and you want to display it as your own. Pretending to own the horse could make you friends, so you tell yourself. Should you act like the horse is yours?

Answer: No! Pretending to be something you're not will only drive people away, not make you friends. Lying is a poor characteristic and is not desired in a friendship. Be honest and true to yourself as well as others.

You absolutely love work by a specific artist and wish to post some of their art. Should you?

Answer: No, unless the artist has given you permission to do so! Taking an artist's work is one way for you to end up in BIG touble! Art and photography is their lively-hood and they take it very seriously. If the artist/photographer has given you permission, GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE! Even if you don't claim the art as your own, the artist may take offense if you do not link back to the original image or to tell the public who made the piece.

Perhaps you stumble upon a pretty photo or piece of art. You like it but would like to make it your own by adding extra designs, colors, and various other effects to it. Should you?

Answer: No! Unless you've asked the original artist or bought the rights to the image from a stock source. Altering another artist's work is strictly prohibited!

I am an artist and photographer so all above are things that I've had people do to me or to my friends. It's not a fun experience so please respect others and treat their work the same. I'm sure I didn't cover all the possibilities but these are ones I'm familiar with. If anyone else would like to embellish/add to the list you're more than welcome to give your view. Any questions that you may have can be asked without judgment and will be answered to the best of our knowledge.

Post with care.:)

Stauffer
12-25-2007, 01:34 PM
also...a nice legal way to post a horse picture that belongs to someone else? a link to their website instead and tell us what horse you think is gorgeous ;) That way the picture never "leaves" their site and we can still see the horse!

I've stumbled upon some very neat artists and photographers on deviantArt and on the web by people showing off neat photos and artwork that way :) I also think that is how I got started watching foalcams! Someone posted a link to a stallions page....and that farm ran an online foalcam and it was foaling season...and I was hooked!

silverleprichuan
12-25-2007, 06:20 PM
thanks for posting this. Anyone who fails to follow these rules runs the risk of being temporarily or permenantly banned from CC. Please remember that photographers put a lot of time and effort into their work and don't want to see others take the credit they deserve

cursivenight
12-25-2007, 06:26 PM
Thanks for posting that FE. That is so completely true, and making sure our members are aware of those rules and such will help out. I didn't even know it was illegal when I was younger or whatever (my thoughts were interenet = use), and I did that until I discovered DA (long before I became a member dont worry lol) on sites such as HL (the worst place EVER for that kind of thing). Making people aware is always the first step, especially since we have alot of young people on here. And posers apparently, but I think that numbers dropping =P

Haley
12-25-2007, 09:22 PM
I've had my work ripped several times, and it's definitely not fun. Please only use your own work instead of taking that of others. ;)

cursivenight
12-26-2007, 05:19 AM
It's probably not my place since I'm not a mod but it's bugging me so I'll just say it and you can uhh...ball me out? if need be =P

Stock images don't mean you can use them at free will most times, and you CANNOT claim you took the photo or you own the horse....!

kay done. I swear. I'm sorry if im being pushy but certain people ....

musiccraze777
12-26-2007, 08:28 AM
It's probably not my place since I'm not a mod but it's bugging me so I'll just say it and you can uhh...ball me out? if need be =P

Stock images don't mean you can use them at free will most times, and you CANNOT claim you took the photo or you own the horse....!

kay done. I swear. I'm sorry if im being pushy but certain people ....

Isn't that what they're saying? No pretending you took the pic or own the horse?

I didn't read it all the way through, just skimmed it, but that's what FE and Silver have basically been rankled about (though mostly the pic thing, also the horses thing).

Half&Half
12-26-2007, 09:31 AM
i get the pictures from photobucket or yahoo images. is that ok?

musiccraze777
12-26-2007, 10:02 AM
i get the pictures from photobucket or yahoo images. is that ok?

I think it should be so long you don't pretend you took them or the horses or whatever are yours...

But I'm not sure what the other mods think.

ForeverEquine
12-26-2007, 10:52 AM
i get the pictures from photobucket or yahoo images. is that ok?

It is only ok if you have permission to post the images or have given credit to the original creator.

I have a photobucket account, mostly for scraps but I've had stuff of mine ripped from my dev page and displayed on there.

Stauffer
12-26-2007, 11:03 AM
I've had a ton of my stuff ripped from dA....never the linearts...always the colored lines..lol

And I offer my linearts to be used for personal coloring and such (like..they can't color it themselves and sell it...but they can color it for practice or to use as a ref or something) and rarely does anyone take me up on that...I have had a few contact me to ask....and all I ask for in return is credit to me for the lineart.

silverleprichuan
12-26-2007, 01:05 PM
i get the pictures from photobucket or yahoo images. is that ok?


if you use the imagines you must give credit to the artist EVERY time you use the photograph. In addition, you cannot claim ownership of the item photographed or right to the photograph. To make a long answer short, I'd strongly discourage using pictures that you have not taken under any circumstance, but if you must use someone's photo, give them credit.

ForeverEquine
12-26-2007, 01:33 PM
if you use the imagines you must give credit to the artist EVERY time you use the photograph. In addition, you cannot claim ownership of the item photographed or right to the photograph. To make a long answer short, I'd strongly discourage using pictures that you have not taken under any circumstance, but if you must use someone's photo, give them credit.

Well put and I completely agree. I recommend just using images that you've personally taken.

Barrelbabe_23
12-27-2007, 04:07 PM
Why do people steal paintings and drawings anyway??( I know why just saying..lol) I mean like really why dont they just draw or paint thier own??? :confused:

musiccraze777
12-27-2007, 04:12 PM
Because they're too lazy for the time it takes to learn to draw and paint. =P And they are so used to the easy way that they cut.

It all starts with administers letting little kids cut in line at school. Next thing you know, they're adults (or teens), frustrated by the length of time it takes, and with a wicked grin, they steal art. The end.

Barrelbabe_23
12-27-2007, 04:16 PM
Get off your butts and go draw yourself pics!!!LOL. (Not you guys the guys who steal pic and drawings).

musiccraze777
12-27-2007, 04:24 PM
America is a race to shortcuts.

"How do I shed my pounds quickly? If you can't tell me, oh well, I'll just stay fat." (not saying being overweight is bad, just that this is an example)

"I don't really want to learn to dance. I suck at it." (after one day)

and...

"I don't want to learn to draw. Takes too much time. Oh, pretty painting!" *snatch*

I make Christmas cards, I don't buy them. But I do still have the lazy gene at times. I hate waiting at the doctor's office and was peeved when I was getting my TX ID that it was going to take about an hour of sitting there. I think I goaded my grandfather into taking me somewhere to eat while we waited. I hate waiting.

And I'm not really going to learn how to draw perfectly, but that's because I do it for fun. I want to write for money, and I'll do anything to make it better. But drawing, no...it just depends on goals, is all.

ForeverEquine
12-27-2007, 04:53 PM
In most cases I've seen, it stems from low self-esteem. They feel that their art isn't good enough so they browse the net, find an awesome piece and claim it so they can get lavished with comments and feel special.

Not that my art is amazing, but that seems to be what the people did with my art. I had one chick even go as far as to claim my initials! People would leave comments and she would answer them with pride. :rolleyes: She also said that she wouldn't take commissions but she would gladly take requests. As well as having a list of "WIPs" all of which were entitled with another one of my pieces.

I think that a lot of the time people just don't realize that it is wrong, mostly in the case of using photographs.

musiccraze777
12-27-2007, 05:02 PM
Gosh, that's so rude!

cursivenight
12-27-2007, 05:04 PM
In most cases I've seen, it stems from low self-esteem. They feel that their art isn't good enough so they browse the net, find an awesome piece and claim it so they can get lavished with comments and feel special.

Not that my art is amazing, but that seems to be what the people did with my art. I had one chick even go as far as to claim my initials! People would leave comments and she would answer them with pride. :rolleyes: She also said that she wouldn't take commissions but she would gladly take requests. As well as having a list of "WIPs" all of which were entitled with another one of my pieces.

I think that a lot of the time people just don't realize that it is wrong, mostly in the case of using photographs.

Wow. That's incredibly sad.

And your art is AMAZING (obviously at that person thought so =P and I do too!)

And music I posted that because some people think Stock is a free for all take if you want it...Which in some cases it is, but that still does not give you a right to claim you took it, and such.

Barrelbabe_23
12-28-2007, 10:08 AM
Well trust me I get lazy allllll the time and I didnt mean it that way. Like I just like if you want to steal drawings(not you guys..lol.) then get off your butts and do it yourself.Thats what I meant!!!