Angel Videos

[alliekk]

I'm posting this in the "for sale" section because she needs to be sold after 30 days. I'm asking $1900 for her. I know the market doesn't say she's worth that, but if they want her they need to pay the $1900.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6vpcBNRuig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba308pSQ1zA

They aren't the best, but I don't have anyone to take the videos for me.

[Raggle]

Oooh, she's gorgeous! I like the way she moves. We're not in the market right now though and Dad needs a larger and stockier horse. :(

[musiccraze777]

If I had the money, I'd love to buy her. She's so beautiful. I LOVE those videos of her.

I hope you find her a really nice home. Wish you could keep her because I bet you love her, but I know the way it goes.

[alliekk]

Oh she's going to be STOCKY! Remember that she's only 2. She's already 15'2 and 1100lbs. She should be about 16-16'1H and about 1300lbs. She'd make a good plod along trail horse or a HELL of a dressage horse.

[alliekk]

I wish I could keep her. I think my little brother might actually talk my step dad into it. He LOOOOVES the fact that she has Picachu on her neck under her mane. I forgot to take a pic of it though.

[musiccraze777]

Wow, tall. I love that!

Pikachu on her neck? That's cute! I hope your brother convinces your parents to let you guys keep her! Good luck with that!

[Raggle]

Oh, she's only two? Sounds like she does have a ways to go then. Wow. O.O Big girl!

I hope you can keep her. I know you really want to. Here's to hoping your brother can smooth talk him into it!

[ForeverEquine]

She really doesn't look that large...at least from the videos. Her back's a bit short as is her neck and she doesn't exactly have the movement that I would look for in a warmblood. She has a more choppy western pleasure type jog instead of the floating trot.

I'm not being mean...I promise, just saying if I was looking for a warmblood, she wouldn't be my first choice but she does seem like a nice filly. I wish you luck selling her.:)

[alliekk]

It's really hard to tell from the video because she's dragging me in circles while I was trying to tape her. Look at the lunge line, it's completely tight. She's actually got a smooth looking trot and it is pretty animated. She had also been trotting for about 20 minutes before I took the videos.

I agree with you though, her neck looks really short. Her markings aren't very flattering because it looks like she has such a short neck and fat throatlatch when in fact it's just average length and her throatlatch is pretty clean. I'm sure it will look better once I get her into a bit and collecting better. Two year olds aren't good at looking pretty, especially one who hasn't had any work or attention in a year and a half.

[DixieGirl]

I think she would be a nice english pleasure/show prospect. Good Luck selling her.

[alliekk]

She doesn't really have the look for Western. I think she will kick some bum in English though!

[ForeverEquine]

I do see what you're saying. Is there anyway you can free lunge her to video? I think that's when they're at their best.:)

[alliekk]

I have a square corral, but it's just too small.

[Casper2002]

She has far too much knee and hock action for western pleasure she would make a fantastic dressage prospect though. If you pull her mane her neck would look cleaner and shave her bridle path longer and it makes her neck look longer.

[alliekk]

That's what I think. I'm going to try and get her more used to the clippers before I attempt anything around her ears. She's a little headshy. We're working on it though. Does she look like a warmblood to you?

[Casper2002]

not really...I would say she looks cow typey paint.

[alliekk]

I just don't see any QH type in her at all. Her bone structure just does not look right. I think she just has too much bone mass and her shape just isn't right. She's one ugly cow horse, haha. I'm not too fond of her face though, it's really bland and her eyes are beady and not very trusting. I can get over that though. I see more warmblood or mustang in her. Just the angle of her hocks and how much hair she has. Her coat consistency is even different. It's very downy, I cant really explain it. She's a nice prospect though.

[Raggle]

I'm not really quite sure what she looks like to me, but I live in a predominantly QH type Paint state and area [Texas of course yeehaw.] For some reason she strikes me as an English horse as well though. The way she moves just doesn't remind me of a Western horse.

[horse_lover]

That's what I think. I'm going to try and get her more used to the clippers before I attempt anything around her ears. She's a little headshy. We're working on it though. Does she look like a warmblood to you?

I don't think she looks like a warmblood at all.... and Warmbloods don't have pinto markings. I would guess paint, not all paints, or quarter horses for that matter, have the classic QH body, some just look kinda like... well.. a horse... she might be a mix, with a paint and got the colors passed along too... personally, I do not look at her and think Dressage Horse, a nice pleasure/trail horse comes to mind though. maybe a children's jumper (small jumps), and I can't really see her getting to be any more than 15.3 possibly 16 h, but not likely....unless she's like a thoroughbred/ paint. I'm not tring to be mean at all, just offering my opinion.

[ForeverEquine]

I don't think she looks like a warmblood at all.... and Warmbloods don't have pinto markings. I would guess paint, not all paints, or quarter horses for that matter, have the classic QH body, some just look kinda like... well.. a horse... she might be a mix, with a paint and got the colors passed along too... personally, I do not look at her and think Dressage Horse, a nice pleasure/trail horse comes to mind though. maybe a children's jumper (small jumps), and I can't really she her getting to be any more than 15.3 possibly 16 h, but not likely....unless she's like a thoroughbred/ paint. I'm not tring to be mean at all, just offering my opinion.

Not necessarily so. I currently work at a warmblood barn and Munster has 2 painted foals now because they were crossed with paint mares. Pinto markings can be registered with the AWR. Arystona, a filly at the barn, came from Munster and a paint mare but she didn't get any pinto marking, just some chrome.

[horse_lover]

Not necessarily so. I currently work at a warmblood barn and Munster has 2 painted foals now because they were crossed with paint mares. Pinto markings can be registered with the AWR. Arystona, a filly at the barn, came from Munster and a paint mare but she didn't get any pinto marking, just some chrome.

I meant purebred warmbloods, sorry for the unclear writing!

[crazy4horses]

I think you should have added some more things to the videos besides, just trotting... but she's very cute! (Ver unqiue markings!) Good Luck! ;)

[alliekk]

That's all she does, trot. She's too energetic to walk just yet (only lunged her a few times, no consistent work yet.) and she's still growing and isn't balanced enough to canter a whole circle. I also don't want to start working with her on formal things until I'm able to consistently work her, like every day or so. I don't want to confuse her.

As for her not being a pure warmblood, I didn't think she was, that was just my guess. The videos don't show how she actually moves because I was being dragged by her. Warmbloods are colored, and there isn't one set body structure of one, theres LOTS of different warmblood body types. She's still fuzzy and you guys aren't seening a sleek WB like you're used to. She's not papered and so I guessed at her breed. I originally thought mustang, but she's just too big and yes, she will get a lot bigger. She is VERY hip high.

The pics and videos obviously cant show you how tall she is. I'm 5'3 and when I stand next to her, her rump is WELL over my eyebrows. I don't have a formal measuring stick, but I can do the math. I had a 2 year old gelding a year ago and he was an even 16H... at two! He's 16'2 at three now. You just can't tell how big their going to get just by their age. I don't have the money to have a string test done and I really don't care to, she's a big horse and that's what I like.

I've advertised her as an unregistered Warmblood of color because I've had more people tell me WB than not. I'm never going to be able to sell her if I said she was a mustang. I don't think she is though after comparing mustangs and warmbloods. The majority of mustangs were about 15'H and under and the warmbloods had her body type. Some even had her face, which ISN'T quarter horse type.

[alliekk]

Look at her body in this picture, and look at her face. You can't see any QH type in her at all. Her bones are way too thick, and I know QHs with thick bones. Her tail is too full and long for a baby, her face looks like she has draft somewhere back there, and her head/neck carriage are just so off. If I find out she is actually paint I am going to hunt down the breeder and smack them and then pay for the stud to be gelded myself. I would never question a QHs breeding because I know what they look like, I'm around them constantly and I've judged them. Compare her body to this mare on Dreamhorse, I don't see a resemblence.

[DixieGirl]

I am sorry to say but she looks like a pony to me. I know she is young but she has a look of a pony. Just my personal oppionion.

[Horse Extreme]

Angel is sooooooooo beautiful!!!! i wish i had a horse like that!!! :p

[crazy4horses]

I am sorry to say but she looks like a pony to me. I know she is yound but she has a look of a pony. Just my personal oppionion.


I agree. It looks like she doesn't reach over 14.3 h

[horse_lover]

I just can't see her being a Warmblood at all.... she might be like a backyard bred horse, like poth parents not having great bloodlines or carrying classic Paint features. I would guess just an ordinary paint, the pictures you posted of the other paint, probably has good bloodlines and that's why she looks so classicly Paint

[DixieGirl]

I just can't see her being a Warmblood at all.... she might be like a backyard bred horse, like poth parents not having great bloodlines or carrying classic Paint features. I would guess just an ordinary paint, the pictures you posted of the other paint, probably has good bloodlines and that's why she looks so classicly Paint

Yeah, I agree with you all the way!

[alliekk]

Like I said, she's already 15'2H so there's no way she can be a pony. The video cant show everything. I'd kind of like to stop arguing about what she is. I don't think she's a paint, I would love to slap whoever bred for her, but what's done is done. There are some things pictures cant show and with my experience judging and showing QH type horses I can say without a doubt that she's not a paint, at least not pure blood. The fact that she has color is what most of you are going by. There are LOTS of breeds that have color that aren't paint.

[horse_lover]

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound offensive.

[alliekk]

It's ok, I was just getting frustrated with people saying that she looks like a pony and that she's a QH type. I cant explain enough to let you guys know what the differences are in Paints. I wasn't saying that the paint I put up was what she should look like, but it was the only paint I could find with a similar angle. Angel being shaggy doesn't help either. I will try to take more detailed pictures when I go down there tomorrow.

[horse_lover]

I agree, she deffinatley (sp?) doesn'y seem to have any classic Paint/QH features, but like you said it doesn't help that she has her winter coat. I wonder if she could be a Mustang... I've seen some fairly nice looking mustangs that have the Pinto markingss like Angel.

[Casper2002]

She still looks like some of the average paint horses that should not have been bred at all. Do you remember Cindys Paint Stud Hank....Perfect example...

[alliekk]

He was pretty ugly, but he still had some characteristics of a QH type. She has a different body structure when you look at her. You can definitely tell she is still growing into her bones, she's pretty hip-high. My mom is going to try and track down the breeders and get more information.

[horse_lover]

She still looks like some of the average paint horses that should not have been bred at all. Do you remember Cindys Paint Stud Hank....Perfect example...

I agree, but alliekk seems pretty confident that that isn't. She come to think of it does remind me of that pinto mustang I saw, except without the big winter coat. :p But 15.2 is kinda big for a mustang.

[alliekk]

That's the only thing steering me away from that possibility! I've seen so many mustangs look like miniature fresians and drafts, but she looks like an overgrown pony! The way she carries herself, her thick hair, her body structure, everything except her height SCREAMS shetland pony! lol

[horse_lover]

She might just be a Grade horse.

[alliekk]

She could be. There's no way for me to be sure anymore, her original owners moved to alaska. Apparently that's why they gave her away in the first place.

[horse_lover]

WOW! That Sucks!!!!

[alliekk]

haha, ya, it does. I lost a sale because of it. I put her on Craigslist wanting to trade her straight across for a horse trailer and someone offered $4000 for her instead of a trade. AAACCCKKK! I could have used that money, no matter how much I like the girl, :o