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horse_lover
05-15-2008, 08:56 AM
Does anyone on here do Parelli?

If so, what level are you and/or what expieriences do you have with Parelli, or Parelli exercises?

I don't really do Parelli, I have played around with it a little htough. I've been to 1 Parelli Tour thing and I've done one of the "7 Parelli Games" with our rescue Mare, that worked great, our relationship grew a lot, we don't have a super special bond or anything, but she does enjoy my company, (most of the time.) because of it.

zansgoodnews
05-15-2008, 09:09 AM
I passed Level 1 with my mare, Maybelline, and I think it helped quite a bit. She is normally a very timid mare and she doesn't enjoy the company of people. I just moved her to a new farm and, I think because of the small Parelli bond we made, she walks to me everytime I step into the paddock :)

I have the Level 1 and Level 2 stuff, but I really need to sell it cause I don't plan on doing anymore Parelli. I don't have time anymore....

Mackoroni
05-15-2008, 09:40 AM
I have taken a few lessons but do to financial reasons I could not continue. I love them though. The bond that was formed between the horse and I was amazing. I would love to get back into lessons if I could.

alliekk
05-15-2008, 10:32 AM
To be honest, I think Parelli is a waste of money. (in my opinion, please don't get upset). There are LOTS of "natural horsemen" who claim their way is best. Not everything works with every horse and I've found that using the methods that you've found to work with your horse and a little bit of each "natural horsemen surefires" and you can get your horse to do anything willingly.

DixieGirl
05-15-2008, 01:20 PM
I got this book at the public libaray call 101 horsemanship exercises and it has most of the stuff the parelli's do with their horses .

horse_lover
05-15-2008, 01:25 PM
To be honest, I think Parelli is a waste of money. (in my opinion, please don't get upset). There are LOTS of "natural horsemen" who claim their way is best. Not everything works with every horse and I've found that using the methods that you've found to work with your horse and a little bit of each "natural horsemen surefires" and you can get your horse to do anything willingly.

Oh, I totally agree, I know 2 people that some natural horsemanship had a bad consequense, one person- horse got head shy, the other person- horsecharged at her while lounging because of that stuff...

But I certainly don't think it is all bad.

Half&Half
05-15-2008, 08:03 PM
I think each horse is different, so Parelli make work very well with some horses, but maybe not with others. I haven't tried it, but I am willing to!

Although, Monty Roberts is definetly one of my favorites :D !

reneigh
05-16-2008, 06:52 AM
I would love to try Parelli with my mare someday, because she is a very high-anxiety mare and I want to see if doing some natural horsemanship would help. She has worked with a natural horseman trainer once, and it made a huge difference within the first 10 minutes.

The only problem is money. It's so expensive!

If anyone is selling their Parelli level 1 kit with everything for less than the norm., pleasseeeee let me know!

And I truly, honestly don't believe that horses become worse from the natural horsemanship. It's the people doing it. I've heard stories about people claiming to be "natural horsemans" and you watch them do the stuff, and they are doing it all wrong and screwing the horses up. It's never ever the horse's fault. It's the same with anything else. Watch a horse who rushes at jumps with his amateur rider, and then watch him in the hands of a grand prix trainer. Same concept.

k.animalia@yahoo.com

horse_lover
05-16-2008, 07:20 AM
I would love to try Parelli with my mare someday, because she is a very high-anxiety mare and I want to see if doing some natural horsemanship would help. She has worked with a natural horseman trainer once, and it made a huge difference within the first 10 minutes.

The only problem is money. It's so expensive!

If anyone is selling their Parelli level 1 kit with everything for less than the norm., pleasseeeee let me know!

And I truly, honestly don't believe that horses become worse from the natural horsemanship. It's the people doing it. I've heard stories about people claiming to be "natural horsemans" and you watch them do the stuff, and they are doing it all wrong and screwing the horses up. It's never ever the horse's fault. It's the same with anything else. Watch a horse who rushes at jumps with his amateur rider, and then watch him in the hands of a grand prix trainer. Same concept.

k.animalia@yahoo.com

Well the horse that became Head shy was the example horse that the Natural horseman person used.

reneigh
05-16-2008, 09:38 AM
Well the horse that became Head shy was the example horse that the Natural horseman person used.

Right, and how did that horse become head shy?

horse_lover
05-16-2008, 09:47 AM
Let's see, this was... 3 years ago... Oh yeah, he was doing this thing tring to teach the horse not to walk infront of the person leading it while being lead, and spun about 1ft of the lead rope infront of her face so if she walked to far forward her nose would get whacked, and she walked ight through it so he backed her up really fast and was all in her face and after that she didn't want anything near her face, my friend had a hard time just getting the halter on, I think that how it all happened, like i said, it was 3 years ago.

zansgoodnews
05-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Let's see, this was... 3 years ago... Oh yeah, he was doing this thing tring to teach the horse not to walk infront of the person leading it while being lead, and spun about 1ft of the lead rope infront of her face so if she walked to far forward her nose would get whacked, and she walked ight through it so he backed her up really fast and was all in her face and after that she didn't want anything near her face, my friend had a hard time just getting the halter on, I think that how it all happened, like i said, it was 3 years ago.

That sounds like improper Parelli to me....I have thoroughly studied Level One and started Level Two. What was he whacking her nose with? The carrot stick or the rope?

horse_lover
05-16-2008, 02:19 PM
It wasn't parelli, and it was a lead rope, he would only whack her nose, (not hard by the way) if she went infront of him.

zansgoodnews
05-17-2008, 12:59 PM
Oh, so it was just some other natural horsemanship thingy....I could see a horse going headshy because of that though....

alliekk
05-17-2008, 01:00 PM
I feel bad for a horse who has been trained the wrong way. First of all it's not the horse's fault and second it is so hard to retrain it.

crazy4horses
05-17-2008, 01:46 PM
No offense to Parelli lovers, but as some people have already stated, I personally think Parelli is too nice and is too slow. Becuase I have seen some of the videos and if the horse does something bad, Pat or Linda Parelli just say "It's okay" and move on! They let the horses get away with things that I think are unaceptable. But, that's just my opinion.

alliekk
05-17-2008, 01:54 PM
I agree with you C4H, horses can learn just as quickly as human beings. Treating them like babies will not help them move forward in their lives, they will be stuck in a mental state that can be disastrous.

crazy4horses
05-17-2008, 01:59 PM
I agree with you C4H, horses can learn just as quickly as human beings. Treating them like babies will not help them move forward in their lives, they will be stuck in a mental state that can be disastrous.

EXCACTLY!!! Thank you for understanding! A horse can/might get in a dangerous stage, always being babied and never learning what's is bad and good. I also don't have the patience for Parille. (I had a lesson with this neighbor of mine, and she is a Parille lover and told me to sit in the middle of my round pen for 30 mins untill my horse comes to me!)

alliekk
05-17-2008, 02:13 PM
I always thought Parelli people were tree huggers, haha. I know they're not, but it's what they sound like.

zansgoodnews
05-17-2008, 08:14 PM
And I don't agree with any of that. I studied Level 1 and Level 2 Parelli. And yea, it taught me a lot of stuff about horses in general. I sped through Level 1 with one of my mares in about a week, easy. I ended up deciding to go through the 7 games with any horses that I plan on working with. It's a good way to see what the horse is like and to test certain things about them. Also, while I was studying Parelli when there was something that didn't work for my horse I would change it up a little so that she understood better, but Parelli did give a nice baseline.

DixieGirl
05-17-2008, 08:21 PM
One thing I don't agree with you guys about is the time. The horse will do it, you can't push them all the time.
We are lucky enough to even have domesticated horses! One of my horses, Montana, was scared by the trailer and I let her work it out on her own time. They are such good and understanding animals to be pushed too fast But yes, Parelli is a little slow but it doesn't have to be fast. It took me a while to get Montana to do a jog for WP. I think slow and steady will make you horse more interested in the human than anything. They can't talk to you so you have to talk to them. They are very complex animals. They want to be with you and love you. But you have to be gentle and let them figure it out the way they want to. This is my personal oppion on what I do.

HappyHorse13
05-17-2008, 09:16 PM
I agree with you 100% Dixie. :].


I like Parelli, a lot. People just use it incorrectly. They just think it's a quick fix.

DixieGirl
05-18-2008, 06:35 AM
I agree with you 100% Dixie. :].


I like Parelli, a lot. People just use it incorrectly. They just think it's a quick fix.

Thanks for agreeing with me!

zansgoodnews
05-18-2008, 08:43 AM
One thing I don't agree with you guys about is the time. The horse will do it, you can't push them all the time.
We are lucky enough to even have domesticated horses! One of my horses, Montana, was scared by the trailer and I let her work it out on her own time. They are such good and understanding animals to be pushed too fast But yes, Parelli is a little slow but it doesn't have to be fast. It took me a while to get Montana to do a jog for WP. I think slow and steady will make you horse more interested in the human than anything. They can't talk to you so you have to talk to them. They are very complex animals. They want to be with you and love you. But you have to be gentle and let them figure it out the way they want to. This is my personal oppion on what I do.

I agree as well :) Horses are not stupid animals, no matter what people say. When we ask them to do something we need to allow them to figure it out instead of trying to push them in to something. The more we push, the harder they push back, and they are a whole lot bigger, lol....

DixieGirl
05-18-2008, 01:03 PM
I agree as well :) Horses are not stupid animals, no matter what people say. When we ask them to do something we need to allow them to figure it out instead of trying to push them in to something. The more we push, the harder they push back, and they are a whole lot bigger, lol....


Thanks!!!!

crazy4horses
05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
One thing I don't agree with you guys about is the time. The horse will do it, you can't push them all the time.
We are lucky enough to even have domesticated horses! One of my horses, Montana, was scared by the trailer and I let her work it out on her own time. They are such good and understanding animals to be pushed too fast But yes, Parelli is a little slow but it doesn't have to be fast. It took me a while to get Montana to do a jog for WP. I think slow and steady will make you horse more interested in the human than anything. They can't talk to you so you have to talk to them. They are very complex animals. They want to be with you and love you. But you have to be gentle and let them figure it out the way they want to. This is my personal oppion on what I do.

I agree, and don't agree with you. Becuase if you are always too nice, or too slow with your horse, they will not learn what the diffrence is between good and bad... I totally agree with you that horses are very smart creatures. I peronsally don't have the patience for Parille (not saying I hate it) and I think that if you are too slow or nice with your horse they will start to ignore you becuase you are never really attending thier bad behavior. So they will think "Hey! I can misbehave and my owner won't care!" I do think Parille is good, but I just don't agree with some of thier techiques. That's all.

DixieGirl
05-18-2008, 05:24 PM
I agree, and don't agree with you. Becuase if you are always too nice, or too slow with your horse, they will not learn what the diffrence is between good and bad... I totally agree with you that horses are very smart creatures. I peronsally don't have the patience for Parille (not saying I hate it) and I think that if you are too slow or nice with your horse they will start to ignore you becuase you are never really attending thier bad behavior. So they will think "Hey! I can misbehave and my owner won't care!" I do think Parille is good, but I just don't agree with some of thier techiques. That's all.

No, what I mean is we have to be nice but dicipline them when neccicary.

Raggle
05-18-2008, 06:02 PM
I know not every horse can benefit from the same method, so I'm always trying to look into other ways and combine them with my own stuff.

reneigh
05-20-2008, 07:00 AM
I feel bad for a horse who has been trained the wrong way. First of all it's not the horse's fault and second it is so hard to retrain it.

Exactly my point, it's never the horse's fault. Give it a good think and tell me when a horse is ever wrong. It's not parelli, like you said. It's a stupid person trying to train a horse the improper way by "imitating" natural horsemanship, which should never be done.

reneigh
05-20-2008, 07:02 AM
No, what I mean is we have to be nice but dicipline them when neccicary.

Discipline is crucial, but only at the right time. I'm a firm believer and user of awarding when good and ignoring when bad until they turn the bad into worse. This method teaches them "hey, i get a treat when i do it this way, so i'm going to do it again and be happy!" and not "i get a whack when i do this, so i'm going to do it again to piss my rider off".

rodeorayy
05-20-2008, 08:01 AM
starting monday,
of next week,
im going to start with my 2 year old mare.
she is so sweet and she follows me around like a dog.
so, that will give me the rest of this week to learn about any additional info that i need.

anyone know of any good websites?