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Horse_Trainer_101
09-16-2006, 11:47 PM
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HappyHorse13
09-17-2006, 04:04 AM
Hello Horse Trainer 101. Welcome to CanterCulture!!! :D

I have a question.

I don't have a horse, but I'd like to train my own, English style. I'm a beginner rider. Should I try to train my own horse?

Horse_Trainer_101
09-18-2006, 10:08 PM
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gatorrugbyplayer05
09-21-2006, 08:03 PM
You shouldn't buy a green horse straight away if you are a beginner. If you want to a few years down the road, that's fine. First learn how to ride properly and take lessons. Spend time at the barn and learn about the care involved with horses and not just riding them. This will take a few YEARS, not months or weeks. THEN you can think about buying an EXPERIENCED, OLDER horse. Learn from this horse- take him to shows, take him to clinics, trail ride him, take lots and lots of lessons. Learn how to deal with problems, and injuries. After another few YEARS of this, you MIGHT be experienced enough to buy a young horse- but follow the advice of your trainer who knows you and your riding style, not people from a message board.

Reading helps. Lots and lots of reading. But truely, the experience is more important than anything.

Horse_Trainer_101
09-22-2006, 07:23 PM
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Missx3Sunshine
09-22-2006, 08:21 PM
I lean to the right when I jump :( , what do u think i can do to make it better?

Horse_Trainer_101
09-23-2006, 12:29 AM
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Missx3Sunshine
09-23-2006, 10:35 AM
Well I cant help but to lean to the right when I jump and it looks weird, but should i like put somtin on my left arm to make me lean normal or somtin??

Horse_Trainer_101
09-23-2006, 06:36 PM
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Calamity
09-23-2006, 07:48 PM
Welcome. I thought you had to be 19 for John Lyons certification? :confused:

Horse_Trainer_101
09-23-2006, 09:31 PM
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Calamity
09-24-2006, 09:37 AM
http://www.johnlyons.com/certification_program.php

General Information
Back to the Index

* The Certification Program consists of twelve weeks.
* Three weeks per session. (Each week runs Monday through Friday)
* Josh Lyons (John's son) will be the instructor.
* Upon graduating, participants will become John Lyons Certified.
* Participants will bring the same two horses for the entire program.
* No one under 19 years of age accepted.
* Participants limited to 15 students per program.
* Each week is $1,500.
* Total cost of educational program is $18,000.
* Traveling expenses, lodging, food, etc. are your responsibility.
* Portable box stalls will be provided. Stall fees are $10 per day/per stall.
*
The Certification Program will be held in Parachute, Colorado. Parachute is located off of I-70. The Ranch is located between Glenwood Springs, CO and Grand Junction, CO, about 45 miles east of Grand Junction.
* Lodging and Feed Store information will be provided.



Yes actually NO one under the age of 19 is accepted. So 22 - 5 is 17. You cannot have been a J.L trainer for 5 years, dear. Actually I cannot find you on his list of trainers at all. ;)

Here is the list of trainers in your area.


http://www.johnlyons.com/trainers/index.php (http://www.johnlyons.com/trainers/index.php)

rebelelite
09-24-2006, 09:59 AM
http://www.johnlyons.com/certification_program.php



Yes actually NO one under the age of 19 is accepted. So 22 - 5 is 17. You cannot have been a J.L trainer for 5 years, dear. Actually I cannot find you on his list of trainers at all. ;)

Here is the list of trainers in your area.


http://www.johnlyons.com/trainers/index.php (http://www.johnlyons.com/trainers/index.php)

Hmmm good work detective lol!!! And that's a lot to go through to be certified..sheesh! It's easier to get BHS certifieds lol And they're insane :(
Good Work!

Iflyhigherthanyou
09-24-2006, 12:45 PM
Well, assuming she's telling the truth, I have a question.

My horse jumps me loose. A lot. I ride without stirrups all the time, but when I jump her that way, I fall off. What should I do to correct this???

MyHorseRocks
09-24-2006, 12:55 PM
I also have a question!

Whenever I long line my mare, I have a hard time keeping her forward and moving from behind. I carry a whip with me, but she doesn't respond to it at all! I don't actually touch her with the whip, but even cracking it gets no response from her! :confused: What can I do so that my long lining remains effective?

Also, where can I get your book at?

Horse_Trainer_101
09-24-2006, 03:09 PM
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Horse_Trainer_101
09-24-2006, 03:22 PM
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Horse_Trainer_101
09-24-2006, 03:29 PM
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Horse_Trainer_101
09-24-2006, 03:31 PM
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Patootie
09-24-2006, 04:02 PM
I can't get my horse to do a flying lead change......help me. :cool:

Horse_Trainer_101
09-24-2006, 04:17 PM
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MyHorseRocks
09-24-2006, 04:21 PM
Hi Horse Trainer,

Thanks for your response. Although my mare doesn't have the problem of not moving at all, she just doesn't want to move properly from behind while I'm long lining. I don't know if having someone pull her with a lead will get her engaging her hind end? She is a 6 yr. old OTTB that I've had for 2 years. She's my new eventer project. We've trained through Beginner Novice and are working on moving up to Novice. I have bad knees, so some days I can't ride, which is why I like to long line her. That way I can still get her to have a proper work out, without me having to ride her. But it clearly won't work if I can't get her to engage her hind end properly! :mad:

Anyhow, how much is your book? And I am a little concerned that you're not listed as a certified J.L. trainer. Don't be insulted, but before I buy your book, I'm going to call the J.L people just to make sure that you're a certified trainer. It's Cassie from Kansas right?

Patootie
09-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Why did you cut and paste your reply? Is this an excerpt from your book? :D

Calamity
09-24-2006, 05:28 PM
Actually I think it is copied from Larry Trocha's email he sends out, it is word for word ;)

Seath_Rider_009
09-24-2006, 06:25 PM
I agree on everything you have said with your training advice that is, yes you may not be as you say a John Lyons Certified Trainer. I myself tried that with little success and could of been one, meeting John Lyons was one things i wished to accomplish and i did, hes just as down to earth as you and me! but the fact was the money. Its outrageously priced and so i decide to just do Personal Training for myself and others outside my family plus advice to people around the world. Although there is not a thing saying you have to be signed up to anything to train others horses', you just have to stand out and be noticed. I have however herd of your book from somewhere but cant remember where Keeping The Dream Alive you say? That sounds very familiar! Oh well sense I live in Kansas as well I'm sure it would be. Also I understand how difficult it is to be noticed without any criticism! Give Horse_Trainer_101 a break, I'm sure theres many others out there faking their identity just so they can advance in the horse world, but truly keep it honest, because honesty is the best policy.

Im new to this website but do offer advice somewhat like Horse_Trainer_101 only my infomation is from me. If you would like to ask ME and question go to my new post titled "True Horse Advice"

Have a Good Day ;)

AlphaMare
09-24-2006, 06:39 PM
I don't get this. Why are there so many "trainers" who garbage up the internet forums with their "free advise"? Do they not realize just how utterly incompetent they are?

Horse Trainer 101: Your posts are annoyingly riddled with grammatical errors and misspellings. Your advice is heinous. You openly admit, "I don't know why you're riding without stirrups. Stirrups are for your balance." Please, do us all a favor and keep your bad advice to yourself and go away.

AlphaMare
09-24-2006, 06:43 PM
Seath Rider: please for GOD's SAKE, do NOT get together with Horse Trainer 101 and procreate! I see you are both located in Kansas and both have the common hobby of trying to solicit heinous advise on the internet, but please have the respect for humanity to end both of your travesties to the horse industry with your own generation.

Seath_Rider_009
09-24-2006, 06:49 PM
AlphaMare

Please do NOT call my advice heinous whatever that may mean, maybe you should check your spelling :confused: Im here to open my mind and yes to help people with their questions along with making friends. If that is any bother to you simply do NOT replay

Good Day :cool:

AlphaMare
09-24-2006, 06:54 PM
AlphaMare

Please do NOT call my advice heinous whatever that may mean, maybe you should check your spelling :confused:



I am sorry to confuse you with the english language!

hei‧nous  /ˈheɪnəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hey-nuhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective hateful; odious; abominable; totally reprehensible: a heinous offense.


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[Origin: 1325–75; ME heynous < MF haineus, equiv. to haine hatred (deriv. of haïr to hate < Gmc) + -eus -ous]

—Related forms
hei‧nous‧ly, adverb
hei‧nous‧ness, noun


—Synonyms wicked, infamous, flagrant, flagitious, atrocious, villainous, nefarious.
—Antonyms admirable.


If that is any bother to you simply do NOT replay


Now, what exactly do you mean by "simply do NOT replay"? Perhaps instead of popping off to others about words you do not understand, you should rather take a local community college course in English 101.

Seath_Rider_009
09-24-2006, 07:26 PM
WOW you are good at looking up words im SO proud of you, how about you look up these words as well!

stupide
Petit des objections
Eunnyer
Piqure
M As tu-vo

look them up too, sence you have so much time on your hands to insult people. Kinda funny you dont show a age on your profile, that means of course your a small minded teen, who has nothing better to do. Im sure you will reply with some stupid come back, its ok, i understand.

AlphaMare
09-24-2006, 07:31 PM
WOW you are good at looking up words im SO proud of you, how about you look up these words as well!

stupide
Petit des objections
Eunnyer
Piqure
M As tu-vo

look them up too, sence you have so much time on your hands to insult people. Kinda funny you dont show a age on your profile, that means of course your a small minded teen, who has nothing better to do. Im sure you will reply with some stupid come back, its ok, i understand.


No, I don't think I really need to respond with a "stupid comeback". Thank you so much for showing us all your crowning glory of wit and prose!

PS: I don't have "a age" posted on my profile "sence" I don't think it necessary to convince people of my age.

TaTa! ;)

Seath_Rider_009
09-24-2006, 07:34 PM
Anyways... How was everyones day?

MyHorseRocks
09-24-2006, 07:46 PM
Why would someone lie about their qualifications as a trainer? I don't think this would be such a big deal if Horse_Trainer hadn't lied about being J.L certified. I don't get the point in that to begin with. If she was trying to sound more credible, then she needs to do so with her advice, not by spouting off fake certifications. I don't think anyone would have been "mean" to her if she had been honest from the get go.

Seath_Rider_009
09-24-2006, 07:58 PM
I agree with you 100% im not a fake and just wanted that stated clearly. No im not a certified trainer and no I dont have EVERY answer to EVERY question and NO im not the best person when it come to words, i didnt write the english dictionary so i wouldnt know every word in it of course. :D Where is Horse_Trainer_101 anyways, she hasnt posted, oh well shes proubly too imbarrised to, i know i would be. Oh well lets stop arguing and start out on a new slate? How bout it?

:D

FEIcrossrailsResChampion
09-24-2006, 08:32 PM
Yo, dipshit!

WOW you are good at looking up words im SO proud of you,

in case you are too dense to figure it out, Alpha had pasted the definition of "heinous" for YOUR benefit.

i didnt write the english dictionary so i wouldnt know every word in it of course.

one doesn't need to have written a book to have a reasonable understanding of basic language, vocabulary, grammar, and spelling.

oh well shes proubly too imbarrised to, i know i would be.

as indeed you should be EMBARRASSED!


This is meant as a public service to anyone, yourself included, who wishes to post on a public forum: in order for you to be taken seriously, your language has to be accurate and correct. I am quite sure that, wherever in Kansas you are, there are sufficient "trainers" listed in the yellow pages that could string words together to form intelligible sentences, and they might even be credentialed and recommended in their field of expertise. For anyone in cyberland with an illtempered pony or an underachieving horse, please seek appropriate assistance from a professional!

DreaminginColor
09-24-2006, 08:37 PM
By golly I'm glad I found you. I'm a barrel racer and I have two major problems. My horse drops his shoulder on the second barrel, often taking the barrel down with it. Also, I lose my stirrups a whole lot. How can I fix both these problems?

Oh, and also, my horse is awful on the crossties. He rears and kicks out. What do you reccomend to cure this behavior?

Timezawastin'
09-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Well, first of all, welcome to Canter Culture, it's great to have you. I wear spurs and my pony puts his ears back and will acasionally kick out if I stick my spur into him and he will kick out if I smack him with my crop too. (not that I usually crop him that much). Can you give me some advice about why he is doing that??
p.s.by the way, FEI, you dont need to be that mean to Seath

PIAFFE!!
09-24-2006, 08:57 PM
OH, man!!! Ppl are just so cruel! :eek: I guess we should be used to it, it happens alot. don't worry, SETH - there certainly IS a lot of people to benifit from free advice! Can't understand why ppl are so up in a wad over others trying to help!

Calamity
09-25-2006, 10:54 AM
Now onto flying lead changes. This is an absolutely essential ability for a barrel horse to have—this ability shaves seconds off your barrel racing time. Just as important, a horse that can do flying lead changes on a cue is so much more versatile than one that can’t—he’ll be able to make any event or exercise easy (or at least, easier than it normally would be). And contrary to popular belief, teaching your horse flying lead changes isn’t that difficult.

A lead is simply whatever foot with which a horse is leading his lope or run. For example, a horse is in his right lead when both his right front and right rear legs are "leading" his left, basically coming first, before both of his left legs.

Changing leads is important for a horse to know for a large variety of sports, exercises, and situations. It's essential for barrel racing and other equine sports, but also for improving the horse's athletic ability, speed, and agility. Another plus is that teaching him to change leads strengthens the bond between you and your horse, like anything positive that you teach him.

Begin at your training area. If you don't have access to an arena with good footing, find a good flat area with no holes, obstructions, or other dangerous objects. I like to start by riding my horse at a walk and/or trot around the area to get him used to the place and the footing. After a couple of minutes of that, begin walking your horse in a large circle in either direction. You want him to understand where you're going to be going, how you're going to be moving. After about two or three complete circles, start trotting him. I like to be traveling at a fast trot by this time, giving him a chance to realize what you're doing at a fast pace, but still not loping.

After a few times around at a fast trot, start loping. If your horse is ringy or likes to run, don't worry about slowing him down to a slow lope--which is what you want. The circle configuration will teach your horse more patience and gradually slow him down on its own, which makes loping circles a fantastic training exercise in itself.

Usually after a few complete circles, the horse begins to calm down and understand that you're simply loping slowly in a circle. The key thing to notice at this point is which lead your horse is in. Make sure that if you're loping in a circle to the right, your horse is in his right lead, and vice versa. If you're not sure how to tell while you're on his back, there are a few ways.

We'll use the right lead again for an example. If you're loping in a circle to the right, look down at your right foot. If your horse is in the correct lead, his right, your own right foot should be further forward than your own left foot. Another way to tell which lead he's in is to look down at his inside--in this case, his right--foot. You should be able to see it reaching out first, and further ahead, of his opposite foot.

Also, if the horse is in his wrong lead, you should be able to feel it. By "feel it," I mean that you should be able to tell with your hips. This usually takes a little practice and experience, but if you start noticing these kinds of things right away in your training, it will make the journey that much easier and faster. If your horse is in his right lead, your hips should be tilted somewhat so that your right hip is basically lower than your left. This is something that is important in teaching your horse to change leads--besides cueing him with your legs, hands, and voice, teach your horse to also notice your hip movements in lead changing. This puts a responsibility on you as the rider to remember these details so that you don't confuse your horse, and, for example, put more weight into your right hip than your left when you want him to be in his right lead.

Another important thing to be aware of is your horse and how he's breathing after a while of exercising. Be sure that if your horse isn't in the best of shape, and even if he is, that you give him a breather periodically. Since a horse's lungs are of the utmost importance to his health, be aware of how he's breathing at all times. Also, one of the most important keys to training horses, especially young horses, is not to wear out your horse while teaching him something. Similar to people, the more tired they are, the less they feel like learning and the less they retain; also, it will make them less than enthusiastic the next time they see you coming toward them with a bridle. A good, healthy workout is what we're wanting.

If your horse is in the wrong lead, here's how to get him to change back to his correct lead. If you are loping him in a circle to the right, and he's in his left lead, try to keep your hips tilted to the left, putting that weight onto your left side. Basically, you want your weight to be on whatever side he's leading with--this is one of the ways, when you're changing leads, that he knows which lead you're asking him to be in. Lift his head slightly to the left, to turn him away from the right turn just a little, and then abruptly--without jerking your horse's head--pull him back to the right, back into the right directional circle. Be sure and remember to cue your horse with your legs--he should "move away from pressure." So when lifting his head to the left, cue him with your right leg and/or foot. When turning him back to the right, cue him with your left leg/foot. This process sometimes takes a little practice, sometimes it doesn't. So if the first time it doesn't work, don't get frustrated. Even if your horse seems a little confused at first, have patience and keep trying. Eventually you'll get it and so will your horse, and because you had to go through that learning process together, it will strengthen that bond between you. Unless you're concerned about your horse's breathing or something else more immediately important, try not to stop your horse until he's done what you've asked him to do. After you've loped him in the correct lead for a while and you feel he's understanding the point, stop him and reward him. Give him a rest.

After he's rested, begin loping the large circle in the opposite direction. Usually, horses have a preferred lead, so once in a while it's not quite as easy as it sounds to simply change directions. Just have patience, again, and remember the tips I gave before. Then repeat the process, rewarding him when he's done as you wanted.

By this time both you and your horse should feel more confident and ready to do a figure 8. This is my favorite pattern to use when teaching a horse to change leads, or just practicing.

Start trotting your horse in the figure 8 pattern so that he understands, again, where you're going to be traveling. After a few times of the complete figure 8, begin trotting him just in one of the circles, not completing the figure 8 by going on to the other circle. Start loping him and be sure to have him in the correct lead before asking for the flying lead change required in the figure 8.

As you and your horse approach the mid-point in the figure 8, where you'll ask him for the flying lead change, be aware of your hands, your hips, and your legs. Lift his head with your hands, shift your weight in your seat and hips, and cue him with your legs, and your horse should complete the lead change. If not, again, don't get frustrated or stop. Keep moving in the new circle until your horse is in the correct lead, and repeat the process. Remember to reward your horse after he's done as you asked him to do. Even when there's room for improvement, you should always be sure and let him know that you appreciate his effort. It keeps his attitude a lot better and, again, strengthens the relationship between you and your horse.

The above that I just quoted (that is how you should 'quote' Cassie as opposed to plagerize)

Is found here:

http://www.suite101.com/lesson.cfm/19620/3143/3

I am not being mean to this little girl because she is pretending to be a trainer etc. online. The website's bring out all the loonies. I am annoyed because she is faking credentials. Giving out BAD advice when it is her OWN, and plagerizing other authors. Thank God she is obviously not the type of person who is even passible in that area. A trainer would not how to spell Lunging and Stirrup. What amazes me is she didn't even notice she spelled it wrong. :rolleyes:

Anyway Cassie, Please stop lying to people.

HappyHorse13
09-25-2006, 01:26 PM
OMG!

You people are such assholes! If you don't want Horse Trainer 101's advice and Seath Rider 009's advice then don't take it, and stop insulting them! It's downright rude! I'm 13 and I know that! There is enough hate in the world as it is. These trainers are just trying to help out! Every horse is different, and every horse's problem is solved differently according to the level of training, age, tempermeant, etc.

And for the person who brought up grammatical and spelling errors in Horse Trainer 101 posts, geez! No one is perfect! Have you seen how many times I need to edit my posts, fix my errors? Give these trainers a break!

:mad:

Missx3Sunshine
09-25-2006, 02:07 PM
Ok maybe my trainer can give me tips too. But thanks for trying to help :)

PeppiPoni
09-25-2006, 02:22 PM
OMG!

You people are such assholes! If you don't want Horse Trainer 101's advice and Seath Rider 009's advice then don't take it, and stop insulting them! It's downright rude! I'm 13 and I know that! There is enough hate in the world as it is. These trainers are just trying to help out! Every horse is different, and every horse's problem is solved differently according to the level of training, age, tempermeant, etc.

And for the person who brought up grammatical and spelling errors in Horse Trainer 101 posts, geez! No one is perfect! Have you seen how many times I need to edit my posts, fix my errors? Give these trainers a break!

:mad:
WOW! Besides the people who are not argueing, one person who has common sense! It doesn't matter if she says she's certified online, it matters if she lies in real life, no offense to her, and does anyone ride with her, you do not know anything about her. I don't want to get into a fight, but everyone who has a life should just break it up and be quiet. She probably already feels really cruddy and is not wanting to ever come on here again because she thinks everyone is cruel and mean and everything like that. I have only read until happy's first response, she may have posted for all I know. Just break it up and leave her and Seath alone. If they think they have good advice, don't just shoot them down. be fair and reasonable. And if anyone insults me for my grammar, spelling, etc., don't even bother. I don't really care if i spell 'your' 'ur'. I DO NOT CARE! So, to get to teh point. Just break it up. Don't shoot people down. Just think if you had said you were saying that and everyone else was attacking you...........I doubt you would like it. dont even try to say.. but, i would not have said tat. but, if you did, think about that! Okay, my speech thoinmgy is over, I am sorry Seath, and Horse Trainer, if people were mean, I know how it feels. And, to people arguing, I don't care if you are mean to me because I won't be on this board for a little bit.... Tahtah!

HappyHorse13
09-25-2006, 03:25 PM
PeppiPoni you make complete sense! :D

PeppiPoni
09-25-2006, 03:34 PM
PeppiPoni you make complete sense! :D
Thank you! You did too! I don't know why, but I dont think I have you under my friends, ill have to add yu! Don't you thikn this is complete nonsense? See, i misspelled stuff and i dont care, that grammarical stuff is retarded! lemme add you as a friend!

HappyHorse13
09-25-2006, 03:46 PM
Thank-you!

Timezawastin'
09-25-2006, 05:02 PM
i totally agree with PeppiPony and HappyHorse13! see, i sumtimes misspel things 2! Get ovr it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patootie
09-25-2006, 05:21 PM
OH, man!!! Ppl are just so cruel! :eek: I guess we should be used to it, it happens alot. don't worry, SETH - there certainly IS a lot of people to benifit from free advice! Can't understand why ppl are so up in a wad over others trying to help!


Because this girl is a fraud. She's giving out info on things, she knows nothing about. What happens when a naive rider takes her advice and ends up with a worse problem?

MyHorseRocks
09-25-2006, 05:23 PM
It is one thing to lie about one's credentials for training but it is an entirely other ball park to also give out poor training advice. That is what the majority of the people who are "being mean to Horse-Trainer" have a problem with.

Yes, in a happy idealistic world, everyone should be able to share their own training advice with whomever. However, in that same happy idealistic world, the people receiving the advice would know the difference between good training advice and bad training advice.

I fear that this is not the case here on this board. The training advice that Horse_Trainer has been giving out is BAD ADVICE. How do I know this? Because I've been around horses and actively involved in the horse world for a long time [probably longer than most of you have been alive], I even taught lessons for many years. For me to read Horse_Trainer's advice is no big deal. I can easily label it as poor training advice and move on. However, I fear that those who have not been working with horses as long [which isn't a bad thing at all! Everyone has to start somewhere :) ] do not know any better -- and thus could try to follow such bad advice and end up in a losing situation, and possibly even hurt.

Asking for training advice in general, online, is never an ideal option. Every horse is different and every circumstance is different -- thus, someone who has no experience working with said horse and rider in real life, can not adequately give an appropriate training solution. If you are really having problems with your horse, it is best to seek out help from someone who knows your situation, and can come help you in real life.

So please, stop calling everyone "mean assholes" for just trying to look out for the members on this board who aren't knowledgeable enough to pick out poor training advice.

HappyHorse13
09-25-2006, 06:29 PM
did anyone read my apology post?!

Seath_Rider_009
09-25-2006, 08:21 PM
Hey everyone, HappyHorse13 how have you been? I have tried to view your profile thing but seem to not have any luck for some reason. Have any horses? How about we forget the past and start off on a NEW slate? I have now 8 horses, afew witch are not listed on my profile. 5 horses in for training from various people in my community. One thats a 2 1/2 year old Paint gelding, a quarter horse filly, 2 studs that are 4 and 6 (6 year old is in for bucking problems and the 4 year old basic training) and last but not least is my mothers 5 y/o TB he is here to go over trail basics. How about all of your horses? :)

rebelelite
09-26-2006, 06:18 AM
It is one thing to lie about one's credentials for training but it is an entirely other ball park to also give out poor training advice. That is what the majority of the people who are "being mean to Horse-Trainer" have a problem with.

Yes, in a happy idealistic world, everyone should be able to share their own training advice with whomever. However, in that same happy idealistic world, the people receiving the advice would know the difference between good training advice and bad training advice.

I fear that this is not the case here on this board. The training advice that Horse_Trainer has been giving out is BAD ADVICE. How do I know this? Because I've been around horses and actively involved in the horse world for a long time [probably longer than most of you have been alive], I even taught lessons for many years. For me to read Horse_Trainer's advice is no big deal. I can easily label it as poor training advice and move on. However, I fear that those who have not been working with horses as long [which isn't a bad thing at all! Everyone has to start somewhere :) ] do not know any better -- and thus could try to follow such bad advice and end up in a losing situation, and possibly even hurt.

Asking for training advice in general, online, is never an ideal option. Every horse is different and every circumstance is different -- thus, someone who has no experience working with said horse and rider in real life, can not adequately give an appropriate training solution. If you are really having problems with your horse, it is best to seek out help from someone who knows your situation, and can come help you in real life.

So please, stop calling everyone "mean assholes" for just trying to look out for the members on this board who aren't knowledgeable enough to pick out poor training advice.

Agreed. I have been working with and have owned horse's for over 20 years (and I am not one of those who say I started at 2 years old and since I'm 22 I'm a professional lol... I wish I was 22). Despite this I do not think I am qualified to give anyone advice on anything (other than general resolutions to pretty universal issues) without seeing their horse myself. It's playing with fire to offer advice to young people who are less than knowledgable. I think the best advice that can be given is for these riders to get trainers and/or professional help in their area. And not attempt to fix problems themselves. Just my two cents. ;)

maz
09-26-2006, 09:38 AM
Hi cassie, i have a question 4 u regarding my mare flicka, shes 3/4 standardbred trotter and although she has a lovely walk & amazing trot, we just cant seem to master a nice, controlled canter! we can gallop at hi uncontrolled speeds, but the second i steady her she becomes dis-united, unbalanced & falls back to an unsteady trot,normally throwing me off balance and causing me to bounce around! Not very professional, I know! i you have any suggestions that would be great! thanks,

Maz & Flicka!!

Seath_Rider_009
09-26-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm not sure Horse_Trainer_101 is going to reply... :confused: But hey if you wanna ask me you can, I'm not forcing my advice on ANYONE but, I'm not gonna give anyone advice on here for the disrespect I've read about on this Forum, but if you simply will click on my profile and message me that way I'd be glad to help anyone, my advice is true, cut and to the point. No persons advice is ever bad if you have the intelligence to look for a reasonable answer.

Have A Wonderful Day Everyone :D

HappyHorse13
09-26-2006, 06:19 PM
Seath, I don't own any horses, but my favorite horse in the world is named Dusty, he's a palomino Quarter Horse/Arabian, and is my friend's horse.
He's awesome! Although he can be spooky, buttheaded, and dumb at times, he is so cool. Dusty has come a long way with Parelli Natural Horsemanship and is the most affectionate and curious horse I've ever known. :D
If you want to see my profile, click 'Meet Friends' and go states, the find Ohio and search. You'll see me there.

Seath_Rider_009
09-27-2006, 09:21 PM
Thats nice HappyHorse13... im glad you enjoy the horse im sure hes great! I used to have a small pony that i rode when i was 6, he was a red roan welch gelding and he was SO mean and grumpy all the time and i got bucked off of him like 4 times but you know what? I LOVED that horse to death no matter what he pulled on me; i think thats where i really learned to ride, was from Elmo... i think i got a pic of him some where ill post it under me horses, and put that it as Red Elmo lol...ya... so in a couple days go ahead and check my profile under my horses and ill show him. Oh I got my 8th horse the other day, hes name is Cyro and hes GORGOUS! hes a Paint Stud, im gunna used in as a Reining horse, i took the picture before i bought him. So go take a look! :D

Skip_n_Hide
09-28-2006, 11:17 AM
hey there everyone... hope your all ok! :p toodles for now everyone! :D pointless message i know lol

Missx3Sunshine
09-28-2006, 05:07 PM
Hi again,
I am now better at my jumping and stuff! Im showing this Saturday the 30th!!!! thanks for trying to help when it was a confusing moment! :)

decker07
10-11-2006, 02:47 PM
Hi I am training my 2 yr. old QH. I don't have a round pen just a pasture. Any tips to training to be successful and safe at the same time?

decker07
10-11-2006, 03:22 PM
Riding without stirrups helps improve your balance and leg strength. Intermediate to advanced riders should ride without stirrups every so often to help correct their riding.

decker07
10-11-2006, 03:43 PM
I believe that any one can give any one advice if they know a way to help that person. You don't need to take the advice just think about it.

kckatt
10-24-2006, 07:44 PM
i have a questain my new(and first horse :D ) is "Barn Sour" he likes to run back to the barn every time he has the chance. can i help this problem? :confused: what should i do??? thanks!!

Seath_Rider_009
11-13-2006, 11:42 AM
haha if you want my advice about the barn sour horse my best way is to work him around the barn more than you do any where elce. Do circles and figure 8's, back him up fast, turn left then right in small circles, lower his head. Just none stop working out when he gets to the barn without you wanting him to. Then when you get the chance to get away from the barn and hes doing good, give him a rest, NO TREAT, jsut a small rest saying "good, thats right" , ya this may take a little time but he will get ahold of it quit and you shouldnt have much of a problem. Hope to help bubye!